Denver’s Activity Could
Clarify Dallas’ Plans
Posted: March 28, 2006 @ 12:59 pm
Chatter on the threads continues to bring up Santonio Holmes. Holmes has been linked to Dallas in many mock drafts. Some on the threads think Denver’s move up from 29th to 15th positioned them to get their pick of WRs. The Broncos were active in the Terrell Owens sweepstakes and are looking for WR talent.
I believe the Broncos will grab RB LenDale White if he’s on the board at 15 and found a story showing Denver isn’t looking for a WR with its top pick; The Rocky Mountain News reports that Mike Shanahan has inquired about Packers WR Javon Walker’s availability. The 2004 Pro Bowler missed all of ‘05 with an ACL tear and caused stir last month when he demanded to be traded.
If Denver values a rehabbing WR over everyone in this year’s college WR crop, why would Dallas think WR in round one, especially with a freshly obtained Owens? I think these mocks were compiled before the Owens signing and have yet to be updated. I can’t see anything but a LB or FS with the top selection, unless somebody rated in the top 12 unexpectedly falls to pick 18.
– Denver is also one of six teams pursuing a trade for Eric Moulds, according to the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle. A source told me today that the Eagles and Texans lead the pack and that a trade could be completed by the weekend. Moulds allegedly prefers to play for the Eagles.
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For sure, the Cowboys should trade down in the first round if they can find a suitor who is willing to work within the standard points system. I’d say moving down to late 20s, early 30s… maybe even an early 2nd round would be just fine. And in exchange, pick up an extra #1 in next year’s draft or a late #2 in this year’s draft.
Otherwise, a WR #1 for the boys at 18 is insanity. Most Cowboy fans agree with this. The publications and national mediots don’t, but that’s because they don’t know. For us, its got to be FS (a reach), LB (good idea), offensive line (reasonable if the right guy is available).
Many pieces still have to fall in place.
As I`ve said in the past IMO BP will most likely trade down on draft day. The only way he uses the 18th pick is if someone is still on the board who they figured to be gone. If you trade too early you lose value. There will be a good WR, DE or OT someone will want. I look for BP to get his Safety with one of his first two picks but he can do this late in the 1st or early in the 2nd round still getting his man and an extra pick or if we are lucky 2 extra picks.
The point to draft a WR makes sense because WR generally take 3 years to develop. So if we drafted a WR in the first round in 2008 he should be ready to go which by that time Glenn will probably be done and TO who knows. I still agree that the need at LB and FS are more pressing and an argument could be made that OL made supercede the need of WR
I think that if Winston Justice were still available at 18, the Cowboys would be foolish not to take him. He will play guard early in his career and move outside to tackle later. FS would be best addressed after the draft. Other than Huff or Simpson, the safeties will mess up as rookies. I think it’s best to go with a former corner like Dale Carter. I know he’s old, but he has the size to play safety.
We should try to start a rumor that he has drug issues or something to get him to fall to 18.
I don`t have the stats in front of me but BP has had tremendous success in the draft in the 3rd,4th & 5th rounds. An extra pick in the 3rd or 4th pick is worth a lot to us with him pulling the strings.
Jesse NY,
Besides Chris Canty, what makes the 3rd 4th and 5th rounds a success lately?
Jesse,
He appears to have missed on Peterman (3rd), missed on Thornton (4th), appears to have hit on barber (4th) and Canty (4th), hit on witten (3rd), and hit on james (4th) so the record doesnt guarentee a dynamic starter for week one. having said that, the whole drafts are much better over the last 3 years so any deal that nets us more picks is probably good.
Im happy if they take simply the best guy on their board in round 1 and then target positions in rounds 2 and 3 or if they trade down and get some more picks. i dont think the talent is significantly different, if at all, between the lower part of the first and upper to middle part of the second.
the good news is they have put themselves in a position to have multiplle options in round 1.
as to 5th round picks, they have only drafted sean ryan in round 5 in the last three years.
Nickl,
let me help you out,
2003
Witten, 3rd round
James, 4th round
2004
Sean Ryan,5th
Nate Jones,7th’
Patrick Crayton, 7th
Jacque Reeves, 7th
2005
Chris Canty, 4th
Marion Barber, 4th
Rob Petitti, 6th
Jay Ratliff, 7th
The later round picks have been alot better since Bills been here compared when Jerry was running the titanic, I mean the teams draft.
1. Draft Greenway in round 1.
2. Draft Babatunde Oshinowo - DT in round 2.
3. Draft either Davin Joseph - OG or Deuce Lutui - OG in round 3
4. Draft Roman Harper - FS in round 5
last year’s draft may end up being looked like as a fluke, although a very good fluke. still, they’re doing much, much better. one more draft like last years and look out.
Derrick,
ALL rounds are better than when Jerry was running the ship.
Look at his last three drafts — 2000 through 2002. Absolute dreck. The only players left are Roy Williams and Andre Gurode.
One quality starter (and he better be drafted 8th overall) and a part time center.
The only other players drafted by Dallas those three years still in the NFL are Matt Lehr and Antonio Bryant.
Four players in three years. Just one starter for your team. Yikes. At least Jerry knew it was time to turn over the reins.
Cali,
Best player available is what our draft board should read.
When we reach:
Shante Carver, Jacob Rogers, E. Ekuban, S.Page, on and on etc.
Havent we learned our lesson?
BP’s vaunted ability to turn unheraled OT talent into contributors is a total fraud - witness last year. Draft OT 1st and 2nd, and maybe third as well. No more OT projects. Protect our lawn jockey statue QB. Get FS later.
Does anyone remember who it was that said “show me a coach who doesn’t draft to fill a need andI’ll show you a coach looking for a new job next season”
The only time you can draft BPA is when you have everything covered. If dallas drafted a first round CB, ILB, RB, DE or SS (or even a TE) because they happened to be the BPA, they would have basically wasted a pick
Well said NICKL well put my friend
my gut tells me chad greenway will be a flop in the nfl.
We should try to move down but not at the expense of one of the top OLBs(wimbley, lawson or carpenter) Winston justice falling would be great. if he did, look for BP getting Chris Cogong (sp?) later in the draft. He is very raw but would be a monster rushing the passer.
Rafael,
What doed BP look for to find a good draft choice that JJ couldn’t see?I mean JJ drafted people that were highly touted but didnt work out.
Cogong is a OLB from Cal Poly or something.
Nickl,
I understand what you are saying and agree- with the exception of DE. BP has always coveted that position and moved them around at linebacker when he is in the 3-4. I think what most are meaning to say is you draft the BPA for future and current, if you are set at what is the BPA, you trade it away for more picks. I am excited that we don’t have to completely rely on the draft to fill tons of needs, and have the oppurtunity to even think about it.
I just read what I wrote and I don’t know that it makes much sense. I know what I mean but guess I can’t put it in words, hope you can make sense of it.
NICKL I agree with you too! I was writing the below as you while you were answering.
I think you only go with the BPA if your team has just one or two holes. I think you go with the BPA for each position you need. For example, we need OLB, FS, OL the most. If Justice is there at 18, I think we should take him. If he’s not, we need to go with the best OLB (Carpenter, Wimbley, Lawson, Greenway). If all of them are gone, we probably go with the best FS available (Simpson) or maybe take a chance on Holmes or Jackson. I think BP would choose Holmes out of the two because he could contribute immediately in the return game.
I don’t think we would take players like a CB, DE, RB, etc just because they are considered the BPA overall when we pick. Your 1st round pick needs to be able to contribute without benching other productive starters. IMO, you can’t use your 1st rounder to draft for depth or the future when your building a team to win now.
look at the lions, they took the BPA last year and now they have three WRs pick high in rnd 1 and became a laughing stock about it too. especially since only one thus far is any good.
Sean Payton is on record as believing that Tony Romo is going to be a good quarterback in this league. Also, San Diego has said that they didn’t bring drew brees back b/c they were concerned about the healing of his shoulder. Could/Would we trade Romo to the saints? What kind of pick would we get??
Shane J
I’m guessing NICKL means the same thing I do when we write DE (although I’m not stating that as fact). What I meant by a DE is a 3-4 DE, not a DE that can be converted to LB. If there was another Canty or Spears, we wouldn’t take him just because he’s the BPA.
Also, it’s easy to say “if you are set at what is the BPA, you trade it away for more picks”, but keep in mind that in order to trade down, you have to have someone willing to trade up. That may not be very easy this draft…
Thanks Derrick:
That list basically makes my point.
I was not only referring to his drafting as our coach but his entire head coaching carreer. If you look at who he picked in the later rounds with the Giants, Jets & Pats it`s apretty impressive list. The man just has an eye for talent. He has never drafted a RB in the 1st round & we all know who some of them are. All I am saying is on his draft board his top pick might be projected at the 88th pick, so wouldn`t it make sense to trade down?
There are not going to be any D`brickshaw`s or Huff at # 18 so trade down. We still need many holes filled. If he sees someone worth taking at #18 I`m all for it !
I just had a thought; is it Bill Parcells scouting or coaching that makes his draft picks so good. It seems that he goes after good character rooks that will respond to his coaching better. I dont think he likes drafting guys with questionable charcter so we can probably count out Gabe Watson as our draft pick. Last year he drafted Canty there were some questions there but he had an inside source with Al Groh.
Keystonetom,
“What doed BP look for to find a good draft choice that JJ couldn’t see?”
Talent.
Jerry has no business doing this, however much it might thrill him. Jerry likes to wear the clipboard and talk the talk “I went be bed thinking about getting Chris Canty tomorrow…” but the evidence is clear. Parcells calls the draft shots.
And yes, Jerry did get some highly regarded guys, all of whom (Derek Ross, Antonio Bryant, Dwayne Goodrich, Kareem Larrimore) were personality risks. In the last few years he took a T.O. wannabe EVERY TIME. Drafting enables the worst risk-taking tendencies he has.
What is so wrong with taking BPA? Name a position on the team, with the possible exception of CB, that is so well covered with depth right now that taking the best one in this year’s draft is a “waste.”
It just so happens that there are 3-4 positions of need in dallas so the BPA per a given team’s board may match with the needs. if it doesnt, however, what do you do?
trade down? someone has to make an offer.
take a position of need? not if the players available at that position dont justify the cost of the number 18 pick, per all your study of them.
why not simply take the BPA per your board? this gives you depth and potentially options to trade another starter, or even gives you time to develop the player at that position if your starters are already in place.
Draft for need in a lower round (2 or 3) where the cost of missing is significantly less.
Rafael Vela
Can you look at blog 26 and tell me if you agree. Antonio Bryant was another JJ draft pick that had character problems wasn’t he.
Rafael Vela
By the looks of your blog 27 we agree that Parcells values character draft picks. I know some people feel that TG and KJ are not character players but I beleive they would be great teamates. As long as the players goal is to win games not just pick up a pay check I beleive the player can be trusted somewhat.
Blitz,
Point taken, I think my philosophy holds correct if it is a normal draft. I concede this years draft is unique in the difference of talent overall being somewhat muddled with few exceptions at the very top.
Hey Jarhead,
I agree and believe you are right on.
Drafting logic should be:
1. value of the pick $
2. player available
3. needs
Rafael,
You hit the nail right on the head.I never realized how many chances JJ took on questionable character(s).If BP was handling our draft back a few years ago would we have taken Q,Carter? I think not.
Raf,
I somewhat disagree with your explanation of what BP sees vs JJ (or almost everyone else). I don’t think it’s the talent difference. I thinks it the intangibles that are tough to measure but a good coach sees. Any player that is universally rated as a top pick has plenty of pure “talent”. The differences are heart, fire in the belly, intensity etc. Antonio Bryant is a prime example of lots of talent but not the other stuff.
And character too!
J-man-regarding post 23-Wouldn’t you feel even more naked w/o Romo as our backup qb? How would you fill that hole? I’m not saying that Romo is the long term answer but he sure looks like Jason Garret to me which is a very good thing.
NickL:
Your thought is incomplete, I’ll make it complete:
The only two times in which you can Draft best player availabe is when you have all the bases covered or when you have a limited team in talent and you Draft to overhaul.
Parcells has been doing that for the past 2 seasons, now it’s time to Draft needs.
J-Man:
It’s Gocong and he’s a real decent prospect in the 3rd Round, 409 in the short shuttle, 38 and a half in the vertical jump, 7.06 in the cone drill and 28 bench reps are pretty good numbers for a SSLB.
I’d label him the front runner as the 3rd Round OLB prospects, with Mark Anderson being the first in the 2nd Round and Carpenter (followed reallly closely by Wimbley) in the 1st.
guys needs to fill, best player available.. all of these things im taking into consideration but if a player of insane caliber who can help you put points on the board or keep them off the board happens to fall to you or even two or three picks from you you had be better do as much as you can to get him, cuz that very player could help in the most important stat of all, thats the W’s… no chris im not just talking vernon davis.. just joshin with ya bud.
honest question, vernon davis, reggie bush, or matt leinart fall into your laps at 18 or happen to fall to 15… what do you guys do???
now i know that wont happen but im saying in theory if it were to happen, would you draft a damn o lineman opposed to top ten talent?????
Raf — your top 12…
1. Reggie Bush, RB, USC
2. Matt Leinart, QB, USC
3. D’Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
4. Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State
5. A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State
6. Vince Young, QB, Texas
7. Haloti Ngata, NT, Oregon
8. Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
9. Michael Huff, FS, Texas
10. Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
11. Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech
12. Winston Justice, OT, USC…………….
You are saying that if any of those above drop, Dallas takes whoever…but wouldnt take:………
13. Broderick Bunkley, DT, Florida State
14. Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
15. LenDale White, RB, USC
16. D’Angelo Williams, RB, Memphis
17. Tye Hill, CB, Clemson……
and therefore would take OLB or FS…
18. Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa
21. Ernie Sims, OLB, Florida State
25. Manny Lawson, DE/OLB, N.C. State
26. DeMeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama
30. Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State
31. Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
32. Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB, Florida State……….
doesnt that reinforce my argument that dallas trades down?
From past posts, Am comfortable with Romo as a backup unless it becomes long term (duh). I haven’t read many of the other boards, did any of you watch the Rhein Fire game? Henson looked much better than the first game. He had several receiver drops, and a couple he threw away instead of forcing it. He did have one that got away from him and should have been intercepted however.
No, he is not the second coming at this point, don’t misunderstand. Just an observation. If, by the end of the season, he does prove himself to be a reliable backup. The talk above about Romo (or Henson) might not be completely out of the question.
I remember Ebezer Ekuban was supposed to be the total package.Great player great character.Maybe his Character was good but he never lived up to his potential.
Henson looked good in the europe game. he had good protection most of the time. of note, the one time he scrambled he rolled left, spinning out of an almost-sack, and hit a WR (it was Zuriel Smith) in the left portion of the end zone right by the sideline. smith was covered and moved toward the sideline to get some separation, it was a nice pass and catch. We’ll see how henson continues to play, so far not bad.
tunahelper,
i think at some point you have to draft for needs. with the cost of 1st rounds picks nowadays, i wouldnt do it in the 1st round unless a player that is way up on the value board matches a team need. again, there is not a significant change in a player’s value between say 18 and 45 in alot of cases but the cost of 45 is much less.
i should say player’s potential ability vice player’s value.
Just heard on ESPN radio that the Cowboys have recieved permission to talk to Joey Harrington.
Eeeek, do we really want that baggage???
Linus, you make a very good point that the likely talent available at 18 should enable us to move down.
In theory.
But as we all know, it takes two to tango. Someone has to move up for us to move down. Now, the most likely talents to fall, that we would not take ourselves, are the RBs.
DeAngelo and LenDale very easily could fall to 18 and be attractive to RB-needy teams. Can you think of any late-first round teams that need a RB? How about Indy?
But the point that I’m trying to make, is that saying we should trade down is obvious. Take it the next step and try to figure out with whom. And why.
Joey who? wtf are we doing man?
I can see T.O. slamming his helmet againts Joey’s head a couple of times in case Drew gets hurt….that would be stupid to bring that guy in. He had all the weapons and never delivered in Detroit…..
If white comes to us at 18 I would draft!!! I think BP would too unless someone wants to give good stuff for the pick. but the teams below us… all I know about is KC where I live. they just dumped their starting 1 and 3 corners. They desperately need CB help.. We traded with KC and still got Roy Williams (or what draft was the KC trade)? I predict we do it again — unless white drops to us.
holy smokes dmn says we’re looking at Joey Harrington!
Harrington wouldn’t be the QB of the future. But I bet he’s cheap and would be an upgrade at backup because of experience, if for no other reason.
why would we need permission to talk to Harrington, wasnt he cut??
WTF no way do we get this guy, remember when we gave ryan leaf another try, this is the same way except Harrington doesn’t have a gritty attitude
getting an early 2nd is unlikely
think about it, the teams we are trading with have picks late in every round
http://www.cowboys-fan.com
harrington is still under contract and the team is trying to trade him
I predict that we have 8-10 pro bowlers this year
1 T.O
2 J.Witt
3 Flo
4 D.Ware
5 T.New
6 R.Will
7 M.vandy
8 T.Glenn
I think,D.Bled,,A.henry,B.James will be considered too after we go 16-0 this season
Chris-I think you have a little too much sugar in your Kool-aid.
Im watching total access on NFL channel….at the owner’s meeting they’re talking about the end zone TD celebrations and what should be allowed and what not, etc….what a bunch of BS…let the guys play! let them enjoy their TD’s and let them entertain people….might as well run the whole league through a Play station man…..
The only position I think a rookie could start and possibly be an upgrade would be free safety. the Boys have pretty much filled there holes via free agency. I wouldn’t feel good starting any rookie on the o-line ahead of the players we have and I think Burnett will show in camp and preseason that he deserves to start opposite Ware. I think this years rookie class should only be relied on for depth and future dividends,unless a playmaking free safety can step in and start. what do ya think?
Chris, you forgot to mention that Bledsoe was also going to break the rushing TD record with 32 scores this year….
Chris , no way both recievers make the pro bowl!
Alright Sean 15-4 with the 3 playoff wins how does that sound?
Its good to see your moving towards the realm of reality. For your own mental health I hope you adjust your expectations before Sept. I’d love it if we went undefeated but I can’t take the pain of missing those expectations.
I think you can find 3 or 4 OLBs who could come in and start as rookies. I think that is where the boys draft in rnd 1 unless someone offers and deal worth trading down for.
dont forget we still have singleton under contract but you can take a rookie OLB and play him situationally there effectively. I wouldnt count on anything from burnett right now.
Lou G
think of it this way Glenn will have career numbers this year because of T.O, and T.O will make it off his name like so many other pro bowlers, thats how they both go this year
yea yea yea…..keep talking about TO breaking records and Glenn flying all over the place my friedns. We better pray for a healthy and strong O-Line and for that line to be able to protect Bledsoe……unless we’re thinking a bunch of end arounds with JJ throwing it to them….
Who thinks the boys will run more max protect this year with TO, witten, and glenn in the patterns?
To the Joey Harrington bashers:
First thing first, I won’t say that he’s a good QB, he isn’t.
But, could he become a more than good bus driver? Yes, he could. He would play much better in the Bill Parcells system, where running is before passing. Harrington played under Sherman Lewis and Ted Tollner and both come from the Bill Walsh/Mike Holmgren coaching tree and that means passing first to open the running game.
Chris, I cant ever recall both recievers of the same team making the pro bowl. Holt and Bruce never done it,I dont think Rice and Taylor ever did it, I like your thinking,but I dont think so.
Your right Lou G
If anybody could get 2 wr in the pro bowl it would be Ari or Indy
If we got Harrington, that means we would have to trade someone or a draft pick for him. Also, that means we would either have to cut either Henson or Romo
I think A.Boldin should have made it last year with Fitzgerald
they’re pretty sure harrington will be released eventually. i doubt they’ll trade for him.
I think we would draft QB before we trade for joey harrington
i dont think they’ll trade for him, but they may be considering signing him as a backup.
personally i say fuck Harrington, the only thing he has proven in the NFL is that he is a back-up at bset.
If he does come cheap I’d take a chance on him
At first I was worried about Harrington because if Martz couldn’t do anything with him, no one could in my mind. However, it may be the case that the guys on the team simply lost confidence in him and he needed a change of scenery. He has had some good games in the past and he’s never had a good OL. I agree with Chandus that in this type of offense, he may do quite well. If he doesn’t, I’m sure we wouldn’t be giving up a lot in trade to get him. I’d be more comfortable with him behind Bledsoe than having two guys who have never played a complete game in the NFL…
We need to sign or draft a FS, before we get a QB
Is there any new news on Ty Law, Charles Woodson, or Lavar Arrington.
who do you give up for harrington?
romo or henson?
you can take 4 QBs to camp but one has to go.
Harrington is not going to be cowboy, John clayton from espn said there were 7 teams interested in him, and i doubt we would give detroit a better pick or harrington more money then the other six teams who are interested
Denver Post says Denver interested but that the “primary stumbling block in a Detroit-Denver trade would be finances. Harrington is believed to be seeking more than $2 million per season, more than Denver is likely to pay for a backup quarterback. Also, Harrington may want to play where he has a chance to compete for a starter’s job.”….
……………………….
No one trades for harrington. Where is harrington going to go with a chance to start? and for 2 mil? and for a draft pick? no way.
the fact that 7 teams are interested should tell you something.
i think the boys are simply exploring options.
Who is less sure that their starting Q will rehab and come back? Dolphins (Daunte Culpepper (three torn ligaments in his right knee))or Bengals (Carson Palmer (two torn ligaments in left knee))? Answer: 3 ligaments beats 2 ligaments — Harrington signs with Miami
lol @Bledsoe’s 32 rushing tds. i wouldnt mind harrington, but doubt it would happen, and if i had to cut one for him it would be henson
does Qunicy Carter have a job? lol
What ever happened to that situation with Greg Ellis thinking he might get released
i heard it clear by JJ that that wouldnt happen, and indeed he does fit
why release ellis? 8 sacks for relatively small cap impact and some veretan leadership.
exactly, he and flozell are the 2 longest tenured players we have. i think that was just Ellis speculating. he had his plays per game decreased last year
chris:
According to words that went out of Parcells mouth, Ellis is going to play more next season and that’s why he’s still on the team plans.
So how is he going to play more? He won’t play more in the 3-4 Defense, Canty is a much better fit in the right side while Spears mans the left side. Parcells also gave the answer last season, he made a move to a more versatile Defense. Last season I didn’t saw a lot of versatility, I just saw one main Defense and the Nickel and that’s what every team plays.
As I said before, the lack of moves at the NT need seems to say to me that Dallas isn’t in the search of another NT, and that Dallas may be searching for a DT to play in 4 man fronts, again, the Draft shall give us all the answers, but to me all this makes a lot of sense.
Chandus, are you suggesting we may be pulling the plug on the 3-4?
JJ’s always looking to steal a quaterback cheap, especially one drafted in the first round maybe he can trade henson for harrington and recoupe some value for the third.
id make that trade
itrust:
Of course not!
I’m just saying that Dallas may be playing the 3-4, the 4-3 and the 42, that would be a versatile Defense.
The only proof that may challenge my theory is that Glover was allowed to walk, but still, I wasn’t seeing him playing a limited role with the price tag he was supposed to have.
ok, just wondering. i think they are pretty high on little pepper. id like to see more versitility too.
i also like a lot of what i saw of Ratliff
linus: loved your 2 ligaments vs. 3 logic. :-)
chandus: very interesting thought:
parcells could be shopping for another piece for 4-man fronts. i remember his comments about ellis for this coming year…hadn’t thought of that one.
that would leave open many possibilities
plus, that makes another high-rated db necessary…the 42 does, that is.
Did Chris Carter and Jake Reed ever make it to the Pro bowl together? (Minn)
i really enjoy reading you guys thought on this.so here what ive been thinking:
1)living in jacksonville i would like to say say i would be the first one and the last one to leave alltel stadium when the Boys come to town (who’s joining me??)
2) i cant stomach anymore risks i think Omar jacobs or croyle would be a better fit than harrington i think Buff would probably pick him up anyways..were shopping henson by the way (he’s a gonner imo)
3)i think dallas would move down in the draft or select a f.s @18 our olb need to be able to cover the likes of a cooley/shockey and we cant plug a rookie in there to do that especially not one that use to be a de (even if he does run a 4.4 40
4) if we dont get more o-line help @ guard were in trouble were not big enough inside
thank u for ur time “ill be here all night everybody”
m78,
1.)I’d love to join you in Jacksonville!
2.)We aren’t getting Harrington. Probably just seeing what the market is for him.
3.) There isn’t a LB who ever lived who can cover Shockey for more than 2 seconds. I know teams do it, but if you see him more than 6 yards off of the LOS with a LB covering him you can say 1st down - or put six up for the F$%king Giants.
4.) Yeah we need more OLine help.
mridge
agree that BP will trade down
will take the best of the group of FS, OLB, RB, OL (not in that order)
alanTdot:
You’re right on the Shockey thing, I guess that next season we’re going to be seeing Newman on top of the team’s best receiver and in the case of the Giants that’s Shockey and in the case of the Skins that’s Moss (I wouldn’t know what to do about Cooley…).
BTW, for those wanting to know how do me and Mr Bill write highlighted words take a look at metafeeds in the left side menu, click on RSS and search between what Rafael writes highlighted words like the ones he writed in this article (Santonio Holmes, Terrell Owens, etc.) then write the same but change the players names for the member in conversation and that’s it, that’s how I’m doing this.
You mean like this?
Isn’t HTML writing cool?
I still don’t get how the Chandus you are getting this to work.
…santonio who???
thanks chandus :-) …my html’s gettin’ better all the time.
I don’t get the highlighting thing.
test test
test
alan:
use this …
w/the word ’strong’ between ‘v’s…
then write your word to be bolded…
then close w/this , with the word “strong” after the slash, / , between the ’sideways ‘v’s’.
don’t know if this is gonna work…
nope, didn’t work…
alan, click on ‘RSS’ under metafeeds, up at top left of page. look at the sideways ‘v’ bracket arrangement that raf uses before and after santonio holmes’ name.
Isn’t this a Dallas Cowboys blog??
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There, you got it, Alan. If you get tired of bolding, you can always italicize by replacing the “strong” with “i”.
HA! Thank you!b drum 3
Thank you cowboy bert!
Yes Slide
this is a Cowboys blog, the guys were just helping my ignorant self learn some HTML.
What about the 6′5″ Safety from Florida Pat Watkins?
4.4 time and a leaper who isn’t afraid to join in on run stopping?
We have a strong secondary, this guy could be had in the fourth round and could be a total steal.
I am of the opinion that we don’t need a FS in the first two rounds. Davis has another year of experiance and Beriault can back up when needed.
Why not take a project at FS?
Hell, we can always got to DWoodson in the playoffs in a pinch!!
Florida St.
Id take the QB from Furman before I would ever consider taking Harrington, this guy is horrible, it was embarrasing watching him play before the Boys on Thanksgiving year after year.
I love Watkins, I would take Manning over him though, but if he lasts until the 3rd round I would take him in a heartbeat. Anthony Smith too, I heard Harper cant cover, neither can Greg Blue, so they dont fit.
Did anyone hear Keyshawn on the Sirius NFL channel yesterday? He said that the Cowboys called him to talk him into coming back after he had an agreement in principal with the Panthers, but he would not go back on his word to the Panthers. He also said that the team thought he wanted more $ than he really did. Finally, he said he would have been happy with 8 mill over 2 years to stay with Dallas, but there never were any talks.
Interesting. He really wanted it to seem that the ‘boys dropped the ball. I wonder if any of it was true.
For those of you dumping on Joey Harrington just remember these facts.
In Jake Delhomme’s first 5 seasons in the NFL he threw for 3 TDs and 5 Ints.
In Steve Young’s first 2 seasons of pro ball in the USFL he threw 16 TDs and 22 Ints. He then followed that up with two years in Tampa Bay where he threw 11 TDs and 21 Ints.
Sorry for the overkill on bolding.
One other comment. PB doesn’t know everything. He has proven that with some of his OL draft picks.
But if there is one thing I absolutely do trust him on is existing Cowboy player evaluation.
He witnessed LA first-hand for the past 3 years. If we let LA go it was done with his blessing and that is good enough for me.
I feel Dallas is in a fortunate position this year, especially with the 1st pick. We have needs, but not any glaring needs. We were a much improved team, playoff contender last year and we’ve become significantly better.
It’s all about value in the draft. The perfect player could fall into Dallas’ lap at 18 and they could still trade down - especially if the value is in their favor and targeted players remain within their reach.
I’ve said it before, but remember when we were desparate for a running back and Steven Jackson somehow made it to Dallas’ 1st pick - just to see them trade it away. Now we have J.Jones & M.Spears instead of Steven Jackson.
I tihnk there will be value at 18 but it’s anybodoy’s guess what, or who that will be.
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whoa that didn’t work
that conversation about bolding was funny for some reason-very entertaining, unintentionally I guess
I loved the ‘is this a cowboy’s blog?’
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Ok, closer…Did I need a slash? What will this/ do?
Why are my bolds not stopping? TLFan, any ideas? Apple computer?
Henson looked pretty good in his last game. I liked the TD throw, moving to his left, being chased, and throwing overhand, off his back foot, for the score. About twenty yards I think. I hope he keeps it up.
Larry,
Mine was a purely hit and miss
Well we all know of the few QBs that worked the kinks out in Europe and went on to lead teams to the SB….it’d be nice
Having two Pro Bowl receivers from the same team is not all that uncommon, although it hasn’t happened since 2000. Here are the pairs who have made it over the last 20 years, per pro-football-reference.com
2000 STL Bruce & Holt; MIN Carter & Moss
1999 MIN Carter & Moss
1998 MIN Carter & Moss
1993 HOU Jeffires & Slaughter
1992 HOU Givens & Slaughter
1991 BUF Lofton & Reed
1990 HOU Givens & Hill
1989 SF Rice & Taylor
1988 SF Rice & Taylor
1986 MIA Clayton & Duper; WAS Clark & Monk
just practicing, 123
COOL, so the saying goes you learn something new everyday.
Ahmad Brooks just got released from the UVA football team. Would we have any interest in the supplemental? Before a series of injuries, he was a top LB in college-as a sophmore.
excellent keyshawn-t.o. article…especiallt the conclusion/last sentence.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=grant/060328
The Cowboys should take care of any )-line issuse first the key to this season is based on Bledsoe standing and nothing else we saw the first 7-8 games I like to refer to those as the Flozzel games and the rest of the season wich was mediocore at best I like to refer to as the post Flozzel games look at the stats and you see the Flozzel games were much much better keep him standing and he’s going to the pro bowl right after he wins the superbowl GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!
Cowboy Jim-I think that may be a flaw in Keyshawn’s representing himself as an agent. As an involved party he has a much harder time going back and forth in the negotiations. He doesn’t have the option of saying”let me run this by my client” while he really runs it by other teams to see if they will match. Of course he wouldn’t admit that it was his agents fault since his agent was him. It also changes the pace of the negotiations which may have prevented Dallas from coming up with a good counter offer.
at any rate, he made a lot more cheese than the cowboys were going to give him, so it seems like good agenting to me, hats off to Keyshawn, i loved him as a cowboy, and i’m still a big Keyshawn fan, except when we play the Panthers!
any word on BP? is he back at the ranch or is he still in florida?
itrustintuna-If cheese is all he wanted he shouldn’t be grousing that the Cowboys could have had him for less money but him keeping his word to the Panthers was more important.
Don’t get me wrong I really like KJ and wish him well. I just think these guys lose a good bit of negotiating power when they do it themselves. I think the Panthers boxed him into a point that he couldn’t get out to see what Dallas would offer. He is a pro football player but an amatuer agent.
finally…one of the first draft boards (i’ve seen) that has the cowboys picking what seems to be this blog-dom’s slightly less-than-unanimous 1st round pick: an olb…one with parcells’ ties.
http://www.draftgurus.com/page1.html
agreed sean. but i think that true of a lot of situations. as a career musician i’ve always fared better finacially with an agent or attorney or administrator representing…although kj seems to have done pretty well in this case.
great TO/KJ article, b_drum thanks for sharing.
I’d be just about shocked if Parcells doesn’t draft an OLB. I’m pretty sure they want FS and NG too in the first day, but you can find adequate players at those positions in later rounds.
As far as Harrington goes, HOF’er Len Dawson once said that it took him until he was 30 years old before he understood the QB position.
sean/b drum 3:
I read a slightly different story. I read that once the bonus went up to $5 mil, Dallas bowed out.
J-MAN: I am commenting on the posts here since I didn’t hear the Sirius radio interview. I do think the Panthers got a very good player but probably over paid for him but not for how much more effective he will make Smith.
One of the NYC papers (Post? Daily News? I forget but I think one of those two) is suggesting that “sources” say Parcells didn’t want TO. Anyone have any info to set my mind at ease about this type of report?