4th Round Thread
Posted: April 30, 2006 @ 9:57 am
A View From the Gallery
Here’s an appetizer from the Fox Sports net guys on the atmosphere in Radio City Music Hall yesterday. I didn’t involve the Cowboys directly, but it did involve a Cowboy. Enjoy:
…after an annoying three minutes of a convoluted E-A-G-L- (still going) -E-S chant, the Jets fans revolt. After all, the J-E-T-S, JETS! JETS! chant is their bread and butter… The Jets fans quickly unite, mobilize, and rock Radio City Muic Hall with an “Eagles Suck” chant. But they’re just getting started. This is THEIR city  we’re a long way from the Liberty Bell and cheesesteaks. After some back and forth, the Jets fans drop the proverbial hammer, delivering a room-rocking “Terrell Owens, Terrell Owens” chant. The Eagles faithful have nothing to say in response.
More news and fun as it appears.
10:10 — 4th round underway. Houston starts it with Wisconsin TE Owen Daniels and Philly follows with Georgia OG Max Jean-Gilles.
11:30 — Dallas selects LSU WR/KR Skyler Green. Special teams coach Bruce DeHaven is thrown a bone. But this is awfully early, IMO for a return man. Fourth round is the last leg of day one in my book. This is becoming the “show me” draft. Green better become the second coming of Dave Meggett, or this is a reach. This also puts the butterfingered Tyson Thompson on double-critical alert.
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This should be a good day. If you look at the boards for OG, S, & NT, they have barely been touched. If those are in fact the ‘boys targets, they have been very patient and been rewarded in doing so.
you have to think maybe the boys are a little gun shy about selecting Oline on day 1.
Johnson is still a ?
Peterman is still a ?
Rogers….well, you all know what happenned there.
I think there is a lot of talent left. I’d love it if Jean-Gilles fell to us in the 4th, but I think he’ll be gone fast. I also think we have a VERY good chance to get Fifita or LeKevin in the 5th. There are a lot of DTs rated higher than these guys left on the board. What a steal if we get one in the 6th!
Here’s Scott Wright’s list of best available day two players…
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/bestdaytwo.html
Looks like we can get a very solid player in the 4th and more than likely, at least one of these guys may be around in the 5th or 6th.
Houston just picked a TE. I’d think those fans would be kind of ticked. They got Putzier in FA and they have that glass TE Joppru (spelling?) If I was a Houston fan, I’d have wanted Jean-Gilles to help out that sad OL. Could he be one of the players that the drug rumors involved or is it just a weight concern? I just can’t believe he has slipped this much.
Man that sucks, e-girls just picked Max Jean-gilles
Damn, Phili is having a FANTASTIC draft…I hate it!!!!!!! Jean-Gilles and Justice!
just heard on the ticket eagles, gave up dt hollis thomas to the saints to move up to pick gillis
Eaglets are having a very solid draft. They just beefed up their O-Line big time with Justice and Jean-Gilles. Damn!
There are quite a few players on the board that I’ve watched which can make good pros…possibly even PRO Bowlers. I think we may be doing more zone blocking next year then man schemes. I say this becuase I read a reportt sometime last year which was questioning our blocking sceme and saying that we must decide which scheme to use- zone or man. With he loss of the strong Allen and the more agile yet less strong Kosier, we may move more to the zone scheme. This might be wise since we do not have an overpoweringly strong line. If this is true, it may be the reason that we havent drafteed Gene Gilles. We may still but if this is true we probably would go after someone like Setterstrom instead. I think Demetrius Williams is a good WR. I heard one repor saying he may end up the best WR in this class. I dont knjow abou that but I have seen him play and he has incredible hands and makes acrobatic catches kinda like Bradon Llyod of the once 49ers and now the Redskins. He could provide good depth at WR. Jeremy Bloom and Skyler Green are options to me as a 4h WR becuase hey are both return specialists. I’d like us to pick up a FS and DT. Ko SImpson is highly rated-Im not sure why he fell. Pat Watkins and Darnell Bing are also good players. I like Watkins actually and I think he’ll only get better with time and coaching. I am surprised that several DT have not been taken yet especially Gabe Watson Jesse Mahelona and Babtunde Oshinowa. We may also be interested in Barry Cofield Marcus Green LeKevin Smith Montavious Stanely Rod Wright. Personally- I feel like we need a DT that can stuff the run as a NT–unless truly BP plans to use Spears in that role. I would like to move up and get Watson just on potential. BP can make him into a rotational force.
I live near OXnard in California. I’d like to buy Raf and Raul or anyone else tha comes out drinks or lunch.
I’d also like o report what I see. Cant wait til camp.
THE Eagles just stole Max Gene Gilles. Great Pickup at his stage. I absolutely HATE to say it but Philly is having an absolutely great draft.
miamicowboys5,
That makes sense, since they picked up Brodrick Bunkley yesterday.
Last time I checked there are still a couple yet good DT free agens out there like Grady Jackson if we miss out geting a DT but I hope we nab one
Gilles is coming out of college at 350+.
A weight problem waiting to happen.
There must be a reason Brick was the only OT drafted in the first round, so I am not to worried about philly.
Buffalo is up. I can’t wait to see how they bungle this pick. Nice work Marv…
Hey Blitz:
They have had a great draft, except for one thing: The only real glaring need they have addressed after 4 picks is Bunkley. They are still woefully inadequate in WR, RB, and OLB.
bills picked ko simpson, man dallas is sure putting alot of faith in coleman and davis. watkins will probably not last until the cowboys pick at 125
i concur. i hate to say it too, but philly’s draft right now is just plain sick. if you told me that we were going to get bunkley, justice, gocong, and giles for the cowboys i would probably piss my pants in joy. sadly it is not the case, however. my pants are dry…dry
Does NT Watson make it through the fourth round?
Does FS Watkins?
When does LeKevin finally don the Star?
I hear ya, the eagles can get all the o-lineman they want, they still have no receivers to throw too
big gabe watson just got picked by the cardinals, they are loading up also
I am a little miffed we didnt trade up and missed on guys
Gene Gilles Gabe Watson Ko SImpson Darnell Bing and others
alright thats it they better get reggie mcneal. just to save face. i’m officially starting the get mcneal campaign. anyone with me?
Eagle picked wr jason avant ooh I;m really scared he sucks
Philly just took Jason Avant WR….he is nothing special to me….I think Demtrius Williams is much better and still there. In fact, I can not understand why he is there….maybe he waspopped for drugs.
i think oshinowo is still around. he’d be a good get right now
Clam- Im with you on McNeal but only if he is BPA in the 4rth or 5th otherwise I spend a 6h on him regardless of BPA
Hey Donny,
Do you live in Thousand Oaks?
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Baltimore took Demetrius Williams- good pick
I once did. Now I live in Sylmar 30 minutes South and my parents live in Simi Valley which borders Thousand Oaks
I used to live in TO as well. Left right after the Cowboys did (no correlation). It is still kind of wierd that the Cowboys are back but in Oxnard now, where the Silver and Pink used to practice.
Why do you ask Vandy???
Holy Toledo!
Miami goes off everybodys board and picks up a Toledo from Washington.
Green Bay just took Will Blackmon who could have been moved to FS as he was a standout CB with size. One less for Cowboys. Where are you at now Vandy??
Let Watkins be there….
I’m in Milwaukie, Oregon (just outside of Portland). Some of my best memories involve meeting the ‘Boys during Summer camp. I am not sure you can do this anymore, but they used to let you get real close to the guys: bring them drinks, have them over for dinner. It was alot of fun.
the kicker from memphis is going to be good
5th or 6th round sleeper choice, D’arrius Howard, RB, Arkansas
alanTdot,
I think Watkins will be there…and I think they won’t get him again. Just have a feeling that we’re not going to be close on many picks. I’d like to see him though.
itrustintuna,
Why a RB?
in not as sold on tyson thompson as some of the others. pure speed isnt enough
I agree, but he was an undrafted FA who was very raw. Since you can’t teach speed, I’d like to give him another year to learn and see where he is next year, but I can see your point.
I guess FS isn’t in the cards? OL? NT? Guess they really are picking the overall best player left on the board. I just hope that the points correlate to the player on the field. Dallas really does NEED a FS and a NT. Am I wrong?
i bet its watkins here
I still say it’s not, but I hope I’m wrong.
peko is off the board. i wouldnt have minded him but id like to see oshinowo. we’re definately in need of a NT.
could hatcher play NT? heard he’s strong enough. but needs to keep his body lower
/we are on! NT Oshinowo or OG Sims?
A run on DT’s
Do we see LeKevin/LeKevin here???
were on I hope its a fs
Forgot OT from Texas Scot
I think Hatcher is too tall to be a 3-4 DT. I still think we’ll be able to get one of the following, maybe in the sixth
LeKevin Smith
Fifita
Montaveous Stanley
I’d be happy with any one of those guys and they’d be a huge value in that round. I wouldn’t be disappointed if we took them earlier just to make sure we got one.
Skyler Green / Kick return specialist. Aaahhhhhhhhh
Looks like we now have a return man to complement Tyson Thompson, and a backup WR. Skyler Green, what do you guys know about him?
i love this pick
and watkins may be there for the taking in the 5th
WOW…well that is all you need to know about Dallas’ feelings for Pat Watkins…or Jonanthan Scott for that matter.
Wow.
Sky Green.
Were our ST that bad last year?
KO returns were pretty good, but maybe our Punt returns never had a shifty quick guy like Green.
Oh well. I still hope we get some OL/NT in our future.
Green is on 1350 AM in Dallas, he is a former HS QB who went to LSU listed as “athlete”, he worked also as running back on reverses and returned most of the punts and kickoffs.
alanTdot,
Coverage teams were good. Return teams, especially punts, were awful. Green was drafted to address this. Still, it’s about one round too high for me.
I think this is a great pick. The guy is one of the best KR/PRs in the draft and he’d be a great slot WR. He’s small, but he’s a playmaker.
OK. 5th round hopes
Pat Watkins
Kevin Boothe
or one of the DTs I listed in comment 51
What’s everyone else hoping for?
I think Skyler Green will help our punt returns and possibly kick returns BUT I thought we’d be better served in the secondary or NT. I guess this means that we do not like Watkins.
I am surprised to see that we havent taken a OLineman yet
I’m not 100% against this pick. It’s an area of moderate need. If he pans out, it means we won’t need Newman to return punts next year. I held my breath everytime I saw him back there. By our 5th round selection, there probably won’t be any O-Linemen better than Petitti available, though. I wish we had grabbed a couple of big-time linemen either in FA or the draft, but it looks like BP wants to stand pat. I think it’s a huge mistake - like choosing Tucker over Vollers last year. I hope I’m wrong. But we’ll see.
I can’t remember which poster said it but he had a point about us being locked in at Oline.
There is a lot of cash in our Oline right now - like our secondary - and we have a lot of guys on the make or break line.
What we don’t have is a Back up NT.
Grant,
Did Vollers play anywhere else last year?
For the Fifth I want
….wait for it
LeKevin/LeKevin!
failing that give me Guard Fred Matua from USC.
alanTdot,
If you don’t know about Kevin Boothe, go to nfldraftcountdown.com and read about him. I think he’d be much better than Matua, but may need a little more development.
Matua would work for me, or J. Scott.
Trade! We are on deck
BOYS JUST TRAdED UP
We are going to be on the clock after tennesse, did we just trade back with the jets to move up? I wonder who they targeted to move up
We moved up to 138 from 150. Looks like a trade with the Jets. Who are we picking?
Dallas moved up…
NT for Sure!!!
I think.
Still a lot of Guard Talent left.
Outside gamble - a QB?
How about a FS, NT, or OL?
Watkins it is.
Pat Watkins! We finally get our safety!
fs, now where’s the big space eatin’ nose guard??!!!
Watkins seems to be the Center Fielder we were looking for. Long legs and able to cover a lot of ground. Interesting to me is that he was the designated kick blocker “leaper” for FSU. He must have a great vertical leap.
An Alvin Harper type in the defensive backfield.
Time for lunch!
Here is our NT! Montavious 6′2″ fireplug
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Here are videos of each of our picks except for the 7th rounders and Hatcher. You can watch Mount Tavious talk dirty to the QB.
Carpenter
Happy viewing.
Here are videos of each of our picks except for the 7th rounders and Hatcher. You can watch Mount Tavious talk dirty to the QB.
Carpenter
Fasano
Happy viewing.
Here are videos of each of our picks except for the 7th rounders and Hatcher. You can watch Mount Tavious talk dirty to the QB.
Mount Tavious
Watkins
Happy viewing.