Third Round Live Blogging
Posted: April 27, 2008 @ 9:32 am
10:50 — The Cowboys trade with the Raiders at pick 104.
10:46 — The Titans take Oneal Cousins at 99. Dallas is up.
10:44 — The Falcons take S Thomas DeCoud. Dallas is on deck.
10:41 — The Bengals take WR Andre Caldwell at pick 97.
10:39 — The Redskins take G Chad Rinehart.
10:36 — The Giants take Mario Manningham at the 95th spot. Four compensatory picks and Dallas is back on the clock.
10:23 — Dallas trades down with the Detroit Lions, who pick 111th The Cowboys get the Lions ‘09 4th rounder for moving down 19 spots.
10:21 — The Packers select Jermichael Finley. Dallas is on the clock.
10:16 — The Bears take DT Marcus Harrison at 90
10:12 — The Texans take Steve Slaton at pick 89. Dallas is just three picks away.
9:54 — The Chiefs take S DaJuan Morgan. Dallas is ten picks away.
9:51 — The Cardinals take Early Doucet with the 81st pick.
9:48 — The Eagles take LB Bryan Smith at pick 80; the Texans take Antwan Molden one pick prior.
The NFL Network just showed Commissioner Roger Goodell hanging out in the gallery, shaking hands and taking photos with fans. Great P.R. move on his part. When has a commissioner ever made himself accessable to fans? It’s a small gesture but this can change his reputation if he does this with regularity.
Note: The teams are averaging about 3 minutes per pick. We’re at pick 75. Dallas picks 92nd and 100th, so we’re about 45-50 minutes away from their next selection. Dallas has only three picks today so I don’t think we’ll see a trade up.
9:34 — Big names flying off the board: Dan Connor goes to Carolina and Reggie Smith to the 49ers.
9:32 — the Chiefs claim Jamaal Charles at 73. Their great draft continues.
And we’re off. Actually the league got off before I got up, but the Cowboys are still around 20 picks away.
Thus far, ten picks in:
9:31 - Charles Godfrey and Earl Bennett are gone.
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Wow! First!
From last thread:
Bears are Vanderbilt North. Hillenmeyer and now two picks with Williams and Bennett. The Bucs used to stock Vanderbilt players, now it looks like the Bears do. Usually pretty coachable/smart players.
Got up early on a Sunday morning to watch some WRs slip. Hope my sacrifice was not in vain.
How about a damn wr already.
Raf I trusted you and your source and Im 2.5 out of 3 on my picks yesterday. When you 1st mentioned the TE I looked him up and was impressed. Everyone has their microscope on and want to see what he will do this year but with Curtis on the roster its not neccessary to rush him.
I didnt want Felix but I have to say if Garrett is the Golden child/ Genius that we percieve him to be then giving him weapons to stretch out the offense in directions is probably the right thing to do. Lets give him a chance to be as creative as we think he is. If you think he is a Walsh/Holmgren/Martz type of talent then turn him loose. We should have the D to allow some growing pains.
Let the rest of the NFC east load up on pass catchers, we got the horses to cover and the pass rushers to go with it.
My only question about Felix is this: Can he block?
Doucet and Caldwell still on the board at pick 81. I’m crossing my fingers for Doucet to make it 12 more picks.
I wuld think the Titans would take Doucett before we pick. But they seem to have the same WR phobia the Cowboys do.
damn
Maybe Manningham now.
Dammit, there goes Doucet to Arizona
NT - Harrison or Bryant?
WR - Manningham or Caldwell?
… 1 of these 4 are now my hope
KC jist took the safety Morgan. A darkhorse pick for us in my mind.
Then the Chiefs took the best safety left on the board–Morgan.
Manningham can barely speak and read. I don’t think we want a dunce like him on the team.
Where’s Adarius Bowman?
Manningham or Caldwell
What should have happened is Arizona trading Boldin to us for Barber and them taking Doucet and more importantly us taking Mendenhall and Charles in the second.
Is Andre Caldwell a go to look for here?
Raf, I’ve got to give you your props…you called it weeks ago on Bennett. Personally, I hated the way we traded away a TE for a 4th only to pick another one in the 2nd, but your ability to prognosticate is very very impressive.
I would have liked Conner.
Dallas has only 3 picks today. Lets think about how many roster spots are realistically open.
Possible needs:
NT
Interior Oline
Safety
ILB
FB
We could use an upgrade at WR. But at this point, are any of these guys going to be better than whats on the roster? I doubt it. The more I think about it, the more I expect 93 and 100 will be One of those first 3 spots mentioned. The 6th rounder will probably be the FB.
We don’t need him to read or speak. Just get open and catch the ball.
Is that UTEP OG apealing to anyone?
Booty an option?
Watch Caldwell go to Tenn
I like Booty. (pun intended)
funny if we can trade up w/PIT in front of Houston again!!!
Right now I would think the Cowboys would look to draft a NT and a G with the next two picks.
I really want them to take the FB out of Arkansas, but given that they took Bennett yesterday, I don’t think that will happen.
To be honest I would be on board with grabbing Monk in the 4th.
or fifth
Baltimore and GB are the obstacles
or Manningham or Caldwell are ours!
Kameleon (Post 37 from previous thread):
Re - Rashard Mendenhall
Do you think the Cowboys will be better off or worse off without Marion Barber? We got into a similar debate on these boards re: Flozell Adams and Terrence Newman.
Contracts are contracts, but these guys are Cowboys. They will be resigned. We don’t want to trade in Marion Barber, a proven NFL commodity, for an unproven rookie if we don’t have to. Same thing goes for Flozell Adams (fortunately we resigned him before free agency started) and same goes for Newman.
Barber will come down with his asking price and Jerry will move up.
Another option could be Reggie Smith, safety.
One thing is for certain, it isn’t going to be WR. I’ve said it along, there is no room on the roster for another WR. This tells me they expect Glenn to be ready to go and that they believe Stanback can be a player.
Maybe Jerry is having flashbacks of Antonio Bryant with Manningham.
Manningham, Caldwell or Bryant. Preferable Manningham at 92 & Bryant at 100.
Sam (33)
Reggie Smith went @ #75 to the 49ers.
I really think we need to take Mario Manningham with the 3rd pick. A DT can be picked up with our 4th rounder.
The facts of the matter is we don’t know if we will pick up a Vet WR or if any of our back up WR will step up and give T.O. some help. Mario could be that guy. He messed up yes, but he would be a steal at this point in the draft.
My problem with Henne & Manningham is that the wideouts there only seemed to run 4 routes.
When Im playing Gm and Im determining whether I want a guy I think interms of his hit/bust potential. things you like and dont like. Mendall hall is a guy I wasnt sold on any more than Felix. Both had measurables and production from big time programs. They certainly both deservered to be 1st rounders.
My only fault with Felix wasnt his talent but the amount of use out of a 1st rounder. Hey that franchise back territory not suppliment/ compliment. We always talk about putting these guys in space but when did we put Julius in space. I also wanted a WR more.
My problem with Mendanhall was though he looks great in shorts and certainly looks like a franchise back, he couldnt beat out an undrafted FA. Franchise backs start early unless another FranchiseBack is on the roster. They also say he doesnt like contact. I dont have a problem with a back running out of bounds but running between the tackles you cant be afraid or looking to avoid collisions. This is a bigger problem than compliment back.
We will know the truth about Mendenhall by week 10. Pitt will find out quickly if this is the case because they play smash mouth. Their fan base will be all over him.
Oh baby, this can turn out to be a great draft.
Pitt knew who they wanted
we need to do something to get another pick here in the 3rd or 4th..
houston got steve slaton … almost cowboys pick
So far I’m pretty happy with the draft.
I kind of think that Dallas should have picked Mendenhall over F. Jones… but besides that I’m pretty happy how everyone has fallen.
NT or interior Oline are my guesses for 92 and 100.
Here comes Mario
Why do these Ass Clowns on the ticket want Franklin and Burton over Manningham and Cladwell?
I don’t get it
I want to see Arizona play Houston…
I want to see Antwan Molden cover Anquin Boldin…
Vandy,
I have no idea what’s going to happen with Barber. I like him but don’t want to pay him top 5 money to do it. Felix Jones is a great player but IMO, he’s not Mendenhall. I’d rather have the guy who can start someday over the guy who I have more questions about. My whole objection to Felix has ALWAYS been about whether or not you draft a complementary back in the 1st round.
I’m looking forward to some new “norm drops”
I’m not overly excited about any of the WRs left, but I guess I won’t complain if we take one. Same think happens seems to happen every year. All the good WR prospects go before we our pick in the second round.
Thanks Vandy, I missed that.
Grrr…
Justin King?
Squid,
The best way to determine whether or not Mendenhall liked contact or not is just to watch the film. Who made more contact, Felix or Mendenhall?? I don’t know what happened the year before with Mendenhall but I do know that against a lot of great teams he carried the load and showed that he can be a starter in this league. I’m happy with Jones but I would have taken Mendenhall. I’ll be honest about that.
Caldwell, Manningham, or Bryant, please… Maybe a Booty (shake)
WE have neglected drafting a WR for too long. Fasano should have been a WR.
Manningham has bust written all over him. He failed multiple drug tests, then lied to teams at the combine about it. Then had terrible interviews with teams, then scored a 6 on the wonderlic. And he ran slow and isn’t known for having great hands.
I’ve got this strange feeling that Manningham will be a Cowboy. He’d fit right in! LOL ;-)
here we go!
moment of truth
I want Manningham. Great route runner and can get seperation.
Come on Manningham!!! This guy has first round ability and only dropped because of his off the field problems. We can still go NT at the beginning of the 4th round.
i say caldwell
Caldwell, Collins, King?
Isay Caldwell too but Manningham COULD be a steal…
Trade!
trade?!
trade 2 lions?
Mario.
We trade to Detroit? For what????
Trade!!!!!!!!
Trade?
let it be mario
Manningham had a 1st round grade at the end of College season. Is he a trouble maker. I can take a dumbass easier than a troublemaker.
Trade with Detroit. Could it be this years #92 and next year’s #1 for Roy Williams?
speculating a detroit 4th & 5th round pick
what we get?
Does anyone else get nervous when Jerry gets cute?
YES.
4th 111th and next yrs 4th..for our 3rd
Nice work Jerry
Fourth next year is a steal
Cowboys getpick pick #111 and 2009 4th round pick of detroit
2 4th rounders. I can live with that. We can still get Manningham. We pick I think at #100.
Damn CPU usage crap again.
the 4th round has been good to Dallas (MBIII, Canty), maybe 2 of Red Bryant, Manningham/Caldwell, Justin King?
giants took Manningham
dang mannighham is gone the giants took them
Friggin Giants got Manningham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sh********************************it
I guess moving down 19 spots for next year’s 4th maximizes the value of the spot.
I was dissappointed not to get a NT there though.
Thank GOD Manningham is now off the board. Good ridance! Good luck in NY.
New York continues to draft really well
good, let them have him… no tears being shed over here
This starting to suck a little…Dammit Jerry pick someone for christ’s sake!!!!
dang i wanted roy willams but i guess two fourths and next years 4th is fine
Thank goodness. We don’t need slow, dimwitted (scored a 6 on the Wonderlick) pot smokin’ liar.
Caldwell’s been my guy for awhile.
There’s a couple of OL that are highly rated by Goose still available as well.
The Giants and the Deadskins are coming loaded for Bear. Our offense passing wise might be getting left behind a little. Giants have Burress, Steve Smith, Shockey, and now Manningham. Deadskins have Cooley, Santana Moss, Devin Thomas, and Malcolm Kelley. I just think we’ve fell behind a little now although not one of these multiple receiving threats is as good as TO. Good thing we’ve got 4 good CB’s on the team. We’re going to need them.
Hoping for Bryant or Caldwell!….
i’d trade the 6th and a nxt yrs pick for another 4th..get nt/ilb/cb
So the Eagles get D. Jackson, Giants get Manningham and the skins get 2 WR and a TE……. let’ hope Pacman gets to play and Jenkins works out….we’ll need those 2 the following years.
i had caldwell here to fighter15 at the miami pick
ugh caldwell to bengals
The guy ran in the 4.3’s and 4.4’s at his pro-day. Not quite slow. Also, he’s got game day speed.
If we can get Caldwell I’ll be happier.
Well, there goes Caldwell. At least it’s not to another of our NFC East rivals. Chrimany…
There goes Caldwell, what the HELL is Jerry doing? He just can’t help himself with these trades
and Caldwell goes to the Bengals. …..dammt Jerry
emmmmmmm…. caldwell’s gone we need to trade to get a wr like willams our bolden.
Dang, Caldwell is gone.
Well, still can get our NT at 100.
I don’t think we are going to get any “WOW” players for the rest of the draft. Most likely be rotational, fillers. I really want a WR, but I just don’t see anybody I like that is left….
The war room is thinking OL or WR with the first 4th rounder pick because of value. I can still see us picking up Bryant though.
Caldwell is gone to Cinci.
If not Caldwell or Bryant, I guess DT Moore is no slouch…
Hitzges keeps saying we might like the WR from Kentucky–Burton. He came for a visit apparently.
Damn Bengals!
DT for sure now…
Yeah Jerry will prolly trade that fourth for two 6’s…he really can’t help himself
The Falcons selected Thomas Decoud.
I see a TE or a LB in our future here.
I just keep reminding myself that for all of that flash, championships are won by the better Defense. I hope this neglect of WRs is because of optimism for Stanbach. Is optimism a plan?
If it’s a TE I am completely shutting it off, I will be officially disgusted
No. Apparently Jerry wanted to move up to get WR Hardy in te second (from DMN blog).
are we actually going to make a pick this time?
OL Cousins to Baltimore…we are up!
Why take a WR with 1st round ability when you can potentially get a future practice squad offensive lineman?? In 3 years or so we might need to replace Bradie James so we might as well draft his LB replacement. Here weeeeee gooooooo!!!
OK, here are my guesses for the #100 pick:
OL–McGlynn
OL–Schuening
NT–Moore
NT–Bryant
FB–Hillis
Bryant!!!! - Please! (or Moore)
Squid,
Optimism can be a plan if the guy had ever done anything besides just model a jersey on the sideline. I refuse to even think about Stadbeck until I actually see him play WR once. Ugh…..
hahahahaha
Clock is ticking away - maybe another trade is being worked on.
wtf
We traded again.
f’n trade!!!
Wow
…. Hillis intrigues me
an other trade
wow trade to oakland!?
You WR guys realize if we draft one, we’re going to have to cut one of the ones on our team right? We have 6 receivers now, so who are we going to draft in the 4th round thats going to beat out Hurd or Austin?
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just frigging traded again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What, no good TE’s left on the board or something??? Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another trade?
ANOTHER FREAKIN’ TRADE! ARGH!
he gave away the 100th also….to Oakland.
Guess we need more picks than palyers, I heard if you end up with the most at the end you win
K Hondo,
Have Austin or Hurd shown ANYTHING that makes you think they can’t be beat out?? Especially Austin. The guy has bricks for hands. A rookie WR doesn’t even necessarily even need to beat out Austin or Hurd. He just needs to be about even with them. The rookie will be cheaper for one thing and this is how you make your team better. Like Parcells said, you churn the bottom of your roster. Austin and Hurd aren’t guaranteed a dang thing. Bring in a good prospect and let them compete. There’s no law that says that ’cause they’re on our roster now they have to always be on our roster.
BTW, I’m not mad at you or anybody. Just frustrated.
I’ve changed my mind. We don’t need another WR or anything like that. We need to draft CB Orlando Scandrick. We need to have at least 10 dang CB’s on the team for when the Giants and Redskins come to town. I can see Manning drooling right now when Burress, Toomer, Shockey, Smith, and Manningham get lined up. If we have 10 DB’s we can put at least 2 on each WR. That’ll show em!!!
another trade?
WTF?!